Episode 187
Understanding EFT: A Deep Dive into Emotional Freedom Techniques
In the latest episode of the Codependent Me podcast, host Tamela Shaw engages in a compelling conversation with Amy Venza, a certified EFT coach and founder of the Soar with Tapping app. This episode is dedicated to elucidating the principles and practices of Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT), a transformative approach that harnesses the power of tapping to facilitate emotional healing. Venza articulates the foundational aspects of EFT, explaining how it integrates energy therapy, cognitive therapy, and somatic therapy to address the multifaceted nature of trauma and emotional distress.
- The podcast emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing codependency to achieve a more holistic life.
- EFT, or Emotional Freedom Techniques, is a powerful method for healing that integrates energy therapy, cognitive therapy, and somatic therapy.
- The practice of tapping can significantly accelerate the removal of cortisol from the body, aiding in stress relief and emotional regulation.
- Listeners learn that unresolved trauma can manifest physically, affecting various parts of the body, and tapping can help to address these root causes.
- The conversation highlights that emotional healing is a continual process and involves recognizing and feeling one's emotions rather than suppressing them.
- The app 'Soar with Tapping' provides resources for individuals to engage in self-help practices that complement professional coaching.
Links referenced in this episode:
- codependentme.org
- codependentmeutlook.com
- soarwithtapping.com
- https://www.joinpodmatch.com/tamala
- https://soarwithtapping.com/
- https://www.instagram.com/soarwithtapping/
Transcript
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Speaker B:Welcome to the Codependent Me podcast.
Speaker B:I am your host, Tamela Shaw, a recovering codependent, the co author of God Turn Mommy's Wine Into Water, and I'm a certified life coach.
Speaker B:On this podcast, we discuss a lot of relevant topics.
Speaker B:But the podcast was created to increase the awareness of codependency and to give information on how to live a more holistic life.
Speaker C:Welcome to the Codependent Me podcast.
Speaker C:I am your host, Tamela Shaw.
Speaker C:And today we have Amy Venza.
Speaker C:She is an EFT coach and the founder of Soar with Tapping app.
Speaker C:Welcome to the show, Amy.
Speaker A:Thank you for having me.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker C:I'm excited to have you here as well.
Speaker C:It's so very cool.
Speaker C:So before we get started, I told everyone that you are an EFT coach, so let them know what EFT is.
Speaker A:EFT is a really powerful healing tool and combines like three different modalities, which is what one of the things that makes it so powerful.
Speaker A:So it's energy therapy because it utilizes the 14 energy meridians found in Chinese medicine.
Speaker A:So similar to acupuncture, but instead of the needles, we're using the percussion of tapping on our acupressure points in order to facilitate healing.
Speaker A:There's also the cognitive therapy aspect.
Speaker A:Well, because we are talking about what it is we want to release while we are doing the tapping.
Speaker A:And then it also includes a somatic therapy element, because tapping on your body can't help but gather your energy back from worrying about the past and gathering your energy back from worrying about the future and brings it center, you know, front and center in our bodies so we can be grounded and feel more safe and peaceful in the present moment.
Speaker A:So it combines all three of those things, which is a really powerful combination.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker A:What's happening kind of on a scientific level when EFT is going on.
Speaker A:So when we get stressed or anxious in any way, shape or form, whether it's through a physical pain or an emotional fear or trauma or something along those lines, what's happened is that our amygdala has been triggered.
Speaker A:That's that fight or flight stress center of our brain.
Speaker A:And 99% of the time, we don't know why it's been triggered.
Speaker A:We just go into the place where our body feels anxious, or maybe we start procrastinating, or maybe the craving for our addiction kicks in.
Speaker A:That's how we know that we've been triggered, because we all of a sudden get distracted with our coping mechanism.
Speaker A:But so what has happened Is we've been triggered in our amygdala by some past trauma.
Speaker A:We don't know what it is.
Speaker A:And our body is rushed with cortisol.
Speaker A:And so what tapping does is it's telling our amygdala through the tapping to de escalate.
Speaker A:De escalate.
Speaker A:De escalate.
Speaker A:It's okay to feel safe and calm about whatever is happening in this moment.
Speaker A:And it is removing cortisol from our body 43% faster than if you had done nothing else.
Speaker A:It's lowering our heart rate, it's lowering our blood pressure, it is increasing our immune system response, and it increases our happiness levels.
Speaker A:So over 300 studies have been done showing the efficacy of this tool.
Speaker A:It is extremely powerful.
Speaker A:While it looks silly and sometimes it might feel really silly, to.
Speaker A:To do is extremely powerful and effective at getting us back to a state of feeling safe and calm.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:I. I love that.
Speaker C:Thank you so much for the explanation.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's funny that you say you might feel silly because in the beginning you might.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I found that with me.
Speaker C:I don't even realize that I'm tapping.
Speaker C:And I didn't know it until my mother brought it to me once we were in a restaurant and something happened, and I became.
Speaker C:I became very anxious, and all of a sudden I started to tap.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:Oh, you just intuitively went to it?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:And my mom says, are you okay?
Speaker C:And I. I'm like, yeah.
Speaker C:I said, why'd you ask?
Speaker C:She said, because you're tapping.
Speaker C:So it's.
Speaker C:It's kind of like some people may rub their hands or.
Speaker C:Or rub their legs, you know, into order to soothe themselves.
Speaker C:I didn't realize that in learning the tapping technique that I started to just do it on my own without even.
Speaker C:And it is everything that you said, how it brings down your anxiety and the heart rate, and, you know, it really soothes you.
Speaker C:It really, really does.
Speaker C:I love having you on here because of course, I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm on the side of.
Speaker C:It's the need, it's not the teaching.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:So I can't really explain why it works.
Speaker C:I just know that it does.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:So, you know, so to explain it to friends and things like that.
Speaker C:I love that.
Speaker C:Now I can say, oh, grab episode.
Speaker C:Such and such, and it'll explain why it's so awesome, right?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes, definitely.
Speaker C:Thank you so much.
Speaker C:So what brought you to tapping or to eft?
Speaker A:That's what I'll continuously call combination of my own suffering and really a kind of a tendency to always be A seeker and always be curious about my own behavior versus other people's behavior.
Speaker A:Like, why is it that I'm feeling really defensive in this moment versus, you know, watching somebody else that, you know, for every other reason, looks the same as me, but is laughing it off and having fun with this moment?
Speaker A:Like, what is it about me that makes me think that way?
Speaker A:And for the longest time, I honestly thought that they were character defects of mine, that there was just something wrong with me.
Speaker A:But I finally realized about seven years ago that those things that I characterized as defects were just responses to childhood trauma.
Speaker C:Yeah, we always are very hard on ourselves, right?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Realizing why or what the actual cause is.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I had.
Speaker A:The funny thing is, I had learned about tapping through a friend of mine about, I don't know, almost 20 years ago now, and I got certified shortly thereafter because I immediately recognized it as a powerful tool, but I had limited success with it.
Speaker A:So sometimes it was great, and sometimes it would just fall flat and I wouldn't feel any different.
Speaker A:And I didn't know what.
Speaker A:Like, it didn't make sense to me why that was happening.
Speaker A:But it wasn't until, like, about seven years ago that I went through many of my.
Speaker A:One of many of my crisis moments where everything felt like it was crumbling around me.
Speaker A:Like, I had a lot of pain in my body.
Speaker A:I was about to get fired from my job.
Speaker A:I was having anxiety attacks every day.
Speaker A:And I started using tapping kind of intuitively.
Speaker A:Like, I was focusing on the fact that I was procrastinating and really, like, could not get myself moving on things that I knew I need needed to do.
Speaker A:And there was a part of me that even wanted to do it.
Speaker A:And I could not make myself move forward.
Speaker A:And I didn't understand.
Speaker A:I couldn't understand that.
Speaker A:So I just started asking myself, like, okay, what would happen if I did move forward?
Speaker A:Like, what.
Speaker A:What is the fear about moving forward?
Speaker A:Exactly?
Speaker A:And so I would go, oh, well, maybe it's a fear of failure.
Speaker A:And then I would ask myself even further, like, what is underneath that fear of failure?
Speaker A:What would happen if I failed?
Speaker A:And then it got to the point where I would feel like, oh, well, then that would mean that there was something wrong with me.
Speaker A:And then what?
Speaker A:How did that belief come about that there's something wrong with me?
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, it's because my dad was an alcoholic and he left when I was 4.
Speaker A:And that was a really, really painful thing.
Speaker A:And so ever since then, I have strived for perfection and anything less than Perfection meant that my worst fears would come true, that it would prove that I was.
Speaker A:That there was something wrong with me and that I wasn't worthy or deserving of love.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it was kind of in that moment that I had this massive clarity moment that literally everything in my life can be siphoned down into these big foundational fears that the trauma had created.
Speaker A:And so when I started focusing my tapping on those big things, those underlying root causes, instead of on the symptoms where I had been focusing before, that was when I really achieved some massively transformational results.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Because when you're looking.
Speaker A:Looking through the world with the lens of there's something wrong with me.
Speaker C:Every.
Speaker A:Single decision I made had that lens on top of it.
Speaker A:And so, like, when I kind of grasped the scope of that, it was so massive.
Speaker A:And so that.
Speaker A:That was the thing that made me go, oh, my God, people need to know about this.
Speaker A:They need to know that they can apply this tool to that root cause so that they.
Speaker A:Because it only took timola, it only took, like, two weeks worth of tapping, maybe a half an hour a day.
Speaker A:And all of a sudden, my world opened up in a way that I never thought was possible.
Speaker C:That is amazing.
Speaker C:That is amazing.
Speaker A:It was really eye opening and just a huge.
Speaker A:It was a huge moment for me.
Speaker A:And that was the thing that.
Speaker A:The moment that changed everything.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think that's phenomenal because, again, I use it when it's.
Speaker C:Current anxiety.
Speaker C:Current.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:You know, not thinking.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Because there are certain things that I know as far as, like, abandonment issues, always feeling like a part of a package and not worthy of being on my own.
Speaker C:You know, I have lots of, you know, traumas.
Speaker C:I never thought to tap on those root causes.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:That is amazing.
Speaker A:Because if you tap, if you neutralize the root cause, then there's no.
Speaker A:There's no.
Speaker C:There's no residue.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's no coping mechanism to deal with because the root cause is gone.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I mean, there's.
Speaker A:It's not as simple as that.
Speaker A:It does take a little bit of work, however, like, the way that most people have been taught to tap is to, like, you and me both, has been to put a band aid over the top of something that is troubling you in a moment.
Speaker A:If the.
Speaker A:If the thing keeps coming back right.
Speaker A:Then that means that there is something else at the.
Speaker A:At the root of it.
Speaker A:And that's when I was like, oh, my God, you know, I have to share this with people.
Speaker C:So that is amazing.
Speaker C:So it I did read that the root causes could be the physical, emotional, and spiritual suffering.
Speaker A:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker C:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker C:He's amazing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know how deep you want to go with this, but.
Speaker C:However deep you want to go with.
Speaker A:Me, Anna speak spiritual level.
Speaker A:I. I personally believe that reincarnation is a thing, and I think that karma is a thing.
Speaker A:And while I was doing some breath work, I got some clarity that lifetime issues that I've had with my sister were my karmic debt to fix because I had been really horrible to her in a past lifetime.
Speaker A:So whether or not your.
Speaker A:Your listeners believe that or not, that's.
Speaker A:That's okay.
Speaker A:But what I did was that I used tapping to.
Speaker A:To fix that spiritual issue.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:It took maybe again, probably around two weeks because it had been decades worth of an issue.
Speaker A:It doesn't go away.
Speaker C:Surprised it wasn't long.
Speaker A:Super quick.
Speaker C:That's awesome.
Speaker A:But now I have a relationship with my sister that is not based on anything else other than I love this person.
Speaker A:It doesn't have that residue of guilt or shame or needing to fix something that I had done wrong because I. I took the time to deal with it with tapping, and I felt the need to apologize to her.
Speaker A:She was like, okay, I don't feel any of that, but, you know, whatever you need to do.
Speaker A:And now I. I'm feel clean about it.
Speaker A:And it has changed my life.
Speaker C:It has truly become an unconditional love.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I love it wasn't before.
Speaker C:That is so good.
Speaker C:Yeah, so good.
Speaker C:So in your.
Speaker C:In your opinion or in your expertise, a person that has unresolved trauma, where does it normally show up in their bodies or how could they release it?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that's the only reason.
Speaker C:That's the reason I'm asking you, where does it show up?
Speaker C:Because I know that with your clients, you.
Speaker C:They've told you where it shows up for them, right?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I can tell you where different emotions show up.
Speaker A:So it's not necessarily the trauma itself.
Speaker A:It is unless it was a physical injury.
Speaker A:And if there is still emotions associated with it, it tends not to heal.
Speaker A:So because we're made to heal, you know, if we're not healing, then it's us that's getting in the way.
Speaker A:So if the emotion, if the emotion is fear, then it is going to be centered around hips, knees, like, really, like lower body, pelvis area.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:That's also big, big systems in our body, like our immune system, our skin, our muscles.
Speaker A:If there is like Epstein Barr virus or Ms. Or something along those lines.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:Although those.
Speaker A:What is the right term for that?
Speaker A:Their immune system disorders, those can all be associated with trauma.
Speaker A:Fear that developed from trauma.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:And that's all those foundational fears that we were talking about, like fear of not belonging, fear of not being worthy or deserving of love, fear that there's something wrong with you.
Speaker A:There's also financial fear is a big one, because that affects your ability to survive, like having a roof over your head and having food on your table, that sort of thing.
Speaker A:There's also, like, fear of our body because if you've had any major medical issues, there can be a real fear of this vessel that we live in, and that is like a really hard place to be when you're afraid of your own body.
Speaker A:So those are all big foundational fears, and those can all be associated with that area of our body.
Speaker C:That's amazing.
Speaker A:If it's like guilt, and I'm going to say.
Speaker A:And an imbalance in our relationship with creativity, money, just relationships with people.
Speaker A:If there isn't a balance between vulnerability and power, like, if you're too heavy in the vulnerability part, there's going to be imbalance, and that will show up, like, in our reproductive organs, in our lower back.
Speaker A:You know, stuff like that.
Speaker A:If there's too much power, same thing.
Speaker A:If you have a lot of shame, that.
Speaker A:Or embarrassment, that will show up in our digestive system, top to bottom, like people with Crohn's or diverticulitis or, you know, something along those lines, it'll show up in that area.
Speaker A:If you have a lot of grief and a really big shadow called the inner critic, then that can show up in heart, lungs, breast, arms.
Speaker A:If you lie to yourself or if you lie to others, that will show up in your throat.
Speaker A:And I also want to say about the throat, that also will.
Speaker A:That also will kind of hold on to feelings of being unworthy or undeserving because you can't ask for what you need.
Speaker A:That's where thyroid issues come into play.
Speaker A:If anybody has problems with their thyroid, there's an inability to not only feel like you deserve to ask for what you need, but being able to voice it right, and even.
Speaker A:Even identify it.
Speaker A:Like a lot of women, mostly that I work with will say, I don't know that I have any needs.
Speaker A:And I'm like, you do.
Speaker A:You've.
Speaker A:It's just been trained out of you to think that you.
Speaker A:That you don't, you know, or you do.
Speaker A:I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're taught to ignore it, that we're.
Speaker A:We're taught to accommodate and take care of other people so much that we forget that we even have needs or we don't feel like we deserve to honor them.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Really good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's amazing.
Speaker C:In fact.
Speaker C:So let's say someone with the fear, you know that that's affecting certain parts of their bodies.
Speaker C:I know that there are certain areas where you tap.
Speaker C:So are there.
Speaker C:Are there certain areas for certain pains, certain traumas, or is it all just the same?
Speaker C:Good question.
Speaker A:And the answer is yes, there are certain areas on our bodies that correspond to the different.
Speaker A:You know, if you're struggling with fear, then the bladder meridian is the one.
Speaker A:And that has to do with knees, hips, feet.
Speaker A:Yeah, that is the one that needs tapping on.
Speaker A:However, that's not what we.
Speaker A:How we teach people to focus.
Speaker A:That gets a little complicated.
Speaker A:And so we just teach people to tap on all the meridians.
Speaker A:That's why, you know, we go around to every single one.
Speaker A:Because it gets a little complicated if we try to say, no, no, this is the stomach meridian.
Speaker A:Only tap, you know, only tap there sort of thing.
Speaker A:So we don't want to make it that challenging.
Speaker A:So we.
Speaker A:We kind of simplified it by tapping on all of them so that we address anything.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's really holistic.
Speaker A:Anything and everything.
Speaker A:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker A:Absolutely is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I love that.
Speaker C:Okay, so you are the founder of Soar With Tapping App, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And when did you found it?
Speaker C:What year?
Speaker A:I started the process about five years ago.
Speaker A:It took quite a while to get it going.
Speaker A:Many reasons that we won't go into, but I launched about two years ago.
Speaker C:Awesome.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:It's been, you know, quite the journey, and my own spiritual journey in the process.
Speaker C:Yeah, that is its own spiritual journey, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it definitely is.
Speaker A:But what I really tried to do with the app because when I was thinking about the idea, I was looking at what was out there.
Speaker A:And what was out there was the option to put a band aid over all of the things that we struggle with, which sometimes is very necessary, don't get me wrong, because in a moment, if you're struggling with anxiety, you don't have time to get down to root cause.
Speaker C:You know, just trying to breathe right now.
Speaker A:I'm just trying to breathe.
Speaker A:Give me a moment.
Speaker A:So it comes in real handy when you do need a band aid.
Speaker A:But I also wanted to give people the opportunity to heal from these really, really deep issues.
Speaker A:Anxiety is a really deep issue that centers all around.
Speaker A:Fear and depression is a really deep issue that it requires, you know, starting from the beginning and then moving forward in a kind of a methodical way.
Speaker A:If you really want to get yourself to a place where you don't have to be in a depressed place, or if, you know, somebody is utilizing medication and they don't want to use that as a long term solution, this is how you help yourself get out of that place.
Speaker A:And so I really wanted to give people those options.
Speaker A:How do you really heal procrastination or addiction or those things from a place where you don't have to deal with it anymore?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:I think that that's wonderful because I've never thought about procrastination being a trigger until you said that.
Speaker C:And it was just like, oh, my gosh, it definitely is.
Speaker C:And I've always thought, like, okay, when I procrastinate, I am sabotaging certain things.
Speaker C:But I, you know, so I think about the effects.
Speaker C:I never thought about the cause.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So I was going in one direction but not the other.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:So I just.
Speaker C:This is amazing to me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, you know, and when we get in that place too, we judge ourselves so harshly.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But the truth is, like, when I got back to that place where I'm like, oh, well, it's no wonder.
Speaker A:It's no wonder my little girl experienced the deepest pain of her life when her dad left.
Speaker C:Mm.
Speaker A:It's no wonder that there's that part of her brain that is desperately trying to avoid getting in that same situation of pain again.
Speaker A:So my.
Speaker A:My stress center is always.
Speaker A:My subconscious mind is always looking on the horizon for something that could threaten my safety again.
Speaker A:And it goes a little crazy and it's a little irrational in its interpretation of what is safe and what isn't safe.
Speaker A:So we need to just address that little girl perspective because that is the little girl perspective.
Speaker A:That isn't my adult perspective anymore.
Speaker A:I'm no longer in that risky or dangerous environment.
Speaker A:I have not created that in my adulthood.
Speaker A:So it's my child brain that is thinking that way.
Speaker A:So I need to heal that part of me.
Speaker A:And once that's done and I'm really taking care of her, then I can move forward as my adult self.
Speaker C:I love that.
Speaker C:So let's say.
Speaker C:And I'm saying this because I want all the listeners to go and download it.
Speaker C:And so when they download it, can you walk through what they'll see and what they should do?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes, definitely.
Speaker A:So when you go into the app, it'll.
Speaker A:It has like a little introduction, videos showing you how to tap, where to tap, that sort of thing.
Speaker A:But there are also a lot of videos that will show you how to work through anxiety, depression, all the things that we've talked about already.
Speaker A:There's also videos that will explain if you're not achieving the results that you're looking for, what are some things that you can focus on.
Speaker A:It'll tell you about why we heal in layers.
Speaker A:You know, if you.
Speaker A:If you get rid of that first layer of the feeling that I'm not good enough, but then you're coming up against that same issue again.
Speaker A:It's not because tapping didn't work.
Speaker A:It's because you only got rid of the first layer and your life has expanded to fill the space that it created.
Speaker A:But now you're asking more from life and you're going to bump up against that ceiling again, and it just requires you to do some deeper work.
Speaker A:That's all.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Just resign yourself to the idea that you're.
Speaker A:You're in the healing boat for life.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:For life.
Speaker C:For life.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:I try to tell people every.
Speaker C:Every day that really, it comes up every day.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:If you hear people.
Speaker C:People say, I am healed, it's like, no, you're not, because you are always healing.
Speaker C:We are always going to have something.
Speaker C:Something may even come up again.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:You are always in the ing, is what I tell them.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Always in the ing.
Speaker C:And it's okay.
Speaker A:That's where we are all in the same boat.
Speaker C:We're all there.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker A:Unless you're like Jesus, you have some healing to do, and that's okay.
Speaker A:That's why we come here, so that we can heal and get better and expand our souls and become more like Jesus.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And we can do it together.
Speaker C:It's what's so beautiful.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:It's what you've gone through.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I so appreciate people like you that bring these conversations to the world so that people, we can normalize the fact that we're all in that healing boat.
Speaker A:Nobody is doing it wrong.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It doesn't have to happen at a certain pace.
Speaker A:We just have to be willing to continue to move forward.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:And the more we have this community, that's okay with using the words, with saying, you know, I'm working through that saying, oh, my gosh, let's all get together and download this app and we can work on certain things together.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:It is a communal situation.
Speaker C:That is phenomenal.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:It's like a book club of healing.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Like, I love it.
Speaker C:I get so excited about it.
Speaker C:So I love that you put this together and you have the videos and everything to let people know that they are not alone.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:It takes a community.
Speaker C:It does.
Speaker A:It does take a community.
Speaker A:And it takes place being willing to show your shadows to people and also to show your light.
Speaker A:And it takes a community to kind of see both of those things.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, that made my heart feel good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's good stuff.
Speaker C:That's good stuff.
Speaker C:Okay, so you also coach eft you want to tell the audience about your programs.
Speaker A:Working with individual clients is one of my favorite things to do.
Speaker A:And I will say, too, that if people have really intense traumas that they need to work through, they should do it with a really qualified tapping coach.
Speaker A:The app is not going to help them with their trauma.
Speaker A:Trauma is too individualized, and there are multiple points along the timeline of their trauma that they have made decisions that they feel guilty, they regret, or they feel shame and embarrassment about, and every single one of those needs to be addressed.
Speaker A:So there's a very specific way to work through trauma.
Speaker A:So I encourage all of your listeners, if they've got really intense trauma, work with a coach and use the app to kind of supplement and deal with the after effects of the trauma.
Speaker A:But, yeah, that's one of my favorite things to do, is working with individual clients.
Speaker C:That's awesome.
Speaker C:And so where can they find out more information about you, Amy?
Speaker A:They go to my website, soarwithtapping.com they can get in touch with me through there.
Speaker A:They can get in touch with me through the app if they download it.
Speaker A:Um, and I like.
Speaker A:Like most people, I'm on all of the social media.
Speaker C:She is on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, LinkedIn, TikTok.
Speaker C:You can find her everywhere, y'.
Speaker C:All.
Speaker A:I like to do a little daily tapping to kind of get.
Speaker A:Give people a little gift and give them started on the right foot.
Speaker A:But that's what they'll find on my social medias that they can get in touch with me another way, too.
Speaker C:Excellent.
Speaker C:So you can DM her.
Speaker C:You know, leave a message.
Speaker C:If you.
Speaker C:If it's a video that you see that you love, leave a comment.
Speaker C:You know, let her know.
Speaker C:Let her know that it's working.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Let her know how you felt when you did it.
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:Wonderful.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:I love that.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Well, Emmy, this has been fantastic.
Speaker A:I loved talking with you.
Speaker C:This is so good.
Speaker A:Fun conversation.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:I feel like I'm gonna have to ask you to come back.
Speaker C:I would love to come back.
Speaker A:Totally coming back now?
Speaker C:Yes, Totally.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Well, I asked all of my guests if they could leave.
Speaker C:Excuse me.
Speaker C:If they could leave the audience with one last nugget, what would it be?
Speaker A:I think what want to share with people is we have been led down a really difficult path when it comes to our emotions.
Speaker A:We have been conditioned to believe that strong emotions of any kind are bad, unless they're the shiny, happy ones, then they are not okay.
Speaker A:You know, up until probably fairly recently, women were committed if they were too emotional about something, and men get judged as being weak if they have any other emotion than anger.
Speaker A:So I.
Speaker A:What I really love is platforms like yours that are normalizing emotions, even the challenging and uncomfortable ones.
Speaker A:And it's when we allow them that we release them from our body and we allow our body to heal.
Speaker A:So it takes moving through the emotions and honoring them and acknowledging them enough so that they feel like they've had their day in court and they can finally let go.
Speaker A:That is the beauty of tapping, because you talk about what it is you want to release, at the same time you're telling your body it's okay to feel safe and calm about this.
Speaker A:So it gives a really safe space for us to feel the uncomfortable stuff.
Speaker A:And so when you go into the app and you're like, I don't understand why it's, you know, talking about how sad you are over and over and over again.
Speaker A:Isn't it encouraging?
Speaker A:Sadness?
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:But the more you feel the sadness, the more it goes away.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker A:So it's all in there.
Speaker A:We're just releasing it?
Speaker C:Yes, that's what I tell people.
Speaker C:In order to heal a thing, you have to name a thing.
Speaker C:And if it's sadness, name it.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker A:Feel it, Name it.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Studies have shown that, like, you feel an emotion for 90 seconds and it starts to go away.
Speaker A:That's so little time.
Speaker A:If we can just allow ourselves to.
Speaker A:To kind of really feel, not think about it, because we have been conditioned to intellectualize our feelings.
Speaker A:Actually feeling them is the way through them.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So I tell people, sit in it.
Speaker C:Go ahead and get wet.
Speaker C:Get wet in it.
Speaker C:Like, get wet.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker C:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:That's a perfect way of putting it.
Speaker A:I'm going to use that.
Speaker A:Please do.
Speaker C:Please do.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, thank you so much.
Speaker C:This has been such a pleasure.
Speaker C:I have learned myself so much.
Speaker C:So thank you.
Speaker C:I'm so grateful that you showed up and you are present today and on the show.
Speaker C:So thank you.
Speaker C:I appreciate you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thank you for having me.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:And I want the audience to know, as I say always, you can choose any podcast, but you chose this one, and I am grateful.
Speaker C:And I want you to remember that you matter and your story matters.
Speaker C:And until next time, me and Amy are going to say goodbye.
Speaker C:Bye.
Speaker B:I truly understand that time is valuable, so thanks for listening.
Speaker B:Be sure to check us out on our Facebook page.
Speaker B:Like us on Instagram website codependentme.org and if you need a coach, email me@codependentmeutlook.com.
